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The Human Enlightenment Project

Jaimee — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:08:06 GMT

~~~ A Tale of Awakening ~~~
The Veil is being lifted at http://wWw.POMOWORLD.com

The Human Enlightenment Project is an infant social network, launched just in September, that is connecting free minds towards the new era of total truth, love, and acceptance. Join us in the movement and enjoy all the mind-expanding media and information you will come across at PomoWorld!

Our mission is to fully represent, connect, and enlighten all kinds of people, while simultaneously working to break down the labels with which society defines and divides them.

The Human Enlightenment Project: A Tale of Awakening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trr96yKnu8Q

It All Begins With Choice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFGlfCm85Ho

The Veil is Being Lifted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MPYlQG_XLM

Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXxODfmU_iU

Join the Movement!
http://wWw.POMOWORLD.com
Free your mind, and the rest will follow.

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Conspiracy History compilation DVDs torrents

History — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:37:17 GMT

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Greetings to all my relations.

This is the last step of our project History Watch. If History is
defined and known by the texts, we can now add to this definition the
recorded events of the filmed archives. Animated images are harder to
deny than printed words. Our objective is to spread out freely some of
the little broadcast, even hidden informations about our collective
History.

We put online a collection of 391 documentaries and other selected and
recut videos, to offer to a wide public the best of the infos
available on the net in english and in french. If you are interested,
you have the time, the right equipment and connection, all you have to
do is open the joint document and decompress it if needed (but normaly
your system should do it automaticaly). You'll find therein nine links
that will open the torrents for the nine DVDs we compiled (around 4.6
Gig each, for a total of a little over 41 G, being over 100 hours of
videos).

Otherwise, you can go directly to btjunkie.com and search for these titles.

11 Septembre 2001 - 9-11
Bush family & friends
Capitalist & Communist regimes
Capitalist conspiracy
Mind Kontrol - Secret Programs
New World Order - Secret Societies
Secret services - cover up - covert ops
Secret weapons - UFO
Terrorism Theories propaganda

Torrents are a system of peer to peer data transfer. The more people
download a torrent, the faster it spreads and the longer it stays on
the net. If you don't have a bittorrent software, we suggest that you
download uTorrent on utorrent.com. If you want to participate in
facilitating the diffusion of these infos about our collective
History, download these torrents on as many computers as possible,
whether it is in cybercafes. It takes one or two minutes to open up
the links and the downloading will keep proceeding on its own.

Please spread this out, take part in this action for social education
on a planetary scale. Thanks.

For more info: watch.history@gmail.com History Watch

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How do you start your won secret society

Scottica — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 02:37:13 GMT

I am planning to start my own and was interested in soem coaching!
Any ideas?

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Knights Templars Absolved

Pilsbury — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:29:57 GMT

The Vatican Secret Archive is going to publish a book called " Processus Contra Templarios " on Oct 25th . Based on research of their archives of a ms called the " Chinon Parchment " which was accidentally filed in a 17th century dossier. According to this doc the Templars explained the nature of their ritual to the Pope that included spitting on the cross, etc as being symbolic of what would happen if they were captured by the enemy . Sounds like bs to me actually. This book is to absolve the Templar Knights as heretics, 700 years later. The Vatican acted against the Templars in order to keep the peace with France and avoid war. So, I wonder, out of all the organizations out there claiming Templar heritage ( specially the Freemasons ), who will step forward to embrace the Vatican and possibly reunite as the military wing of the Catholic Church ??? Does this mean the Vatican is looking forward to another crusade in the Middle East, the stage is certainly set.....

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Intro

Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:25:51 GMT

Hello, I am Mathu and I have just started to study magick though Israel Regardie's book,The Golden Dawn. I am still looking at dffererent orders for one to join in the Seattle or Jefferson county areas, mostly Jefferson, since I live near Port Townsend. Any suggestion would be appreciated.

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ART CONTEST!!!...HERE ON TRIBE

The Passenger — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:58:31 GMT

I have recenlty started 3 new art tribes
In order to boost participation in these tribes, we are hosting 3 separate art contests

This week only .............starting Mon 9-03...ending mon 9-10

To enter............. just submit as many pictures as you want into our photo gallery
(we would be honnered)
Begain the title of your photo with AC(For Art Contest)
Example: if you photo is called " The Rose" title it ....AC " The Rose"

To vote (you can vote more than once or even vote for yourself) leave a comment in an AC photo that you think deserves recommendation

Next monday I will view the photo's and anounce the winners in all of my 11 tribes and provide links to the you photo's

1st prize.... (in each tribe) will be featured as the main photo for at least 1 month

2nd and 3rd prize photo's will recieve honerable mention and I will anounce the winners in all of my 11 tribes and provide links to the you photo's

!!! So please come and enjoy a fun opportunity to recieve constructive critisism of your expression!!!!!
If this goes well we will host a new contest monthly...Thank you

AMAZING ART

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Folk Art and Pop Art ( Folk- N- POP )

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Religious and Spiritual Art (Apparitions

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the answer to the question is yes

sacredgoddess — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:05:42 GMT

now what was the question...essesntiallly differences between all of teh rose croix organizations. I was AMORC for 2 years, at about $$65 bucks a year, of course supersaturated my brain with all of the stuff I already knew instintually...then as the "paranormal,new age phenom" really started blooming...all of a sudden they claimed to be in a money crisis, so the upped the yearly rate 500%. Yes..to over 300...people started to see through the "increase" as how could costs on a subscription/paper by mail run program go up so much...
so then people started reading into what the organization really was all about..
there really is no "king of Rose Croix mystery schools" to be honest they all pretty much started the same time as different lodges of the same thing. Only out of good management did AMORC do things like invest in a museum and take on tasks of ritual more so than other lodges.
The other ones were like comparing a Large City Rotary to a small town Eagles Hall....they essentially do the same thing, but yet one takes in significantly more money because of good business placement.
Well thats as easy as I can make it. The philosphy documents are essentially the same, so the same lessons will be given to you, its just that you are alligning your self with "Joes Burgers" rather than "McDonalds"....how much do you want to pay for the same information?
some consider it status to eat a more expensive well known burger than one from a greasy spoon! But yet they have the same ingredients.
Does this help....personally I am not into status things like LV handbags or such, and if I just want good information, then I will go with the buick that doesnt have all the flashy buildings and websites, rather than the Ferrari model....hey they both give you the same thing, moving wheels that take you somewhere..

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reverse-engineered alien technology REVEALED

jonbe — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:33:06 GMT

this just came out yesterday:

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

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NEW TRIBE..SUMBLIMINAL..MESSAGES AND PROPAGANDA

Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:57:44 GMT

. http://tribes.tribe.net/e388baea-51eb-417f-9390-06fe37f92e41?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5Be388baea-51eb-417f-9390-06fe37f92e41%5D

NEW TRIBE..SUMBLIMINAL..MESSAGES AND PROPAGANDA
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New tribe....Subliminal messages and propaganda
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New tribe........ subliminal messages and propaganda
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created 02/13/07
On T.V.....on Billboards....from U.F.O's...in symbols....on corporate logo's...
Mind- control...perversion....perswasion..political warfare...Illuminati..occulism..
find em and report em here..they're everywhere

also.....
a new tribe.... The Prophecy of Magog Tribe
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My paintings on music video

Mon, January 29, 2007 - 6:56 AM
strong images...
(my take a second to load past skulls swords and roses)
(may have to hold down control on links)
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Devil worshipin france(book)what do you think?

Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:52:20 GMT

this is the linc for the book.......think there is anything to it?
and here is the intro....

http://www.sacred-texts.com/evil/dwf/index.htm

Devil Worship in France
by A.E. Waite
[1896]
Contents Start Reading

In spite of the sensational title, this book is actually a debunking of a notorious late 19th century hoax. Leo Taxil, a French anti-clericalist, suddenly converted to Catholicism in the 1885 and wrote a number of books in which he claimed that Freemasonry was a world-wide satanic conspiracy. Taxil started an anti-Masonic newspaper. In 1887 Taxil even had an audience with Pope Leo XIII, who subsequently sanctioned his anti-Masonic campaign.

Waite systematically debunks Taxil in this book, citing factual inaccuracies, plagarism, and sheer absurdities. Waite is in top form here, witty, sarcastic, and utilizing extensive firsthand knowledge of Victorian mystical and masonic groups to demolish Taxil. Of interest is Chapter VII, wherein Waite gives a detailed summary of Taxil's pulp-fiction narrative, which has never translated into English. It is amazing that anyone would take this yarn seriously, then or now.

In 1897, the year after Waite published this book, Taxil announced at a press conference that his conversion was a fraud, the books he had written were complete fabrications, and that he had published them to embarass the Catholic church. His motive for targeting the Freemasons was because they had rejected his application to join them. Diana Vaughan, the central character in his book The Devil in the Nineteenth Century, was also fiction--Diana Vaughan was the name of one of his typists.

Unfortunately, no matter how absurd or discredited, this is the meme that refuses to die. Both Taxil and Waite have been quoted out of context numerous times by anti-Freemasons, conspiracy theorists and the simply paranoid to underpin their beliefs that Lucifer is secretly worshipped by Masons. It is crucial that anyone investigating the issue (such as it is) read this book in its entirety in order to get perspective.
Title Page
Preface
Contents
Chapter I. Satanism in the Nineteenth Century
Chapter II. The Mask of Masonry
Chapter III. The First Witnesses of Lucifer
Chapter IV. Ex Ore Leonis
Chapter V. The Discovery of M. Ricoux
Chapter VI. Art Sacerdotal
Chapter VII. The Devil and the Doctor
Chapter VIII. Dealings With Diana
Chapter IX. How Lucifer is Unmasked
Chapter X. The Vendetta of Signor Margiotta
Chapter XI. Female Freemasonry
Chapter XII. The Passing of Doctor Bataille
Chapter XIII. Diana Unveiled
Chapter XIV. The Radix of Modern Diabolism
Chapter XV. Conclusion

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Secrets of...

carcosa — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:06:34 GMT

I was tickled to accidentily come across this series on OPB, (Oregon Public Broadcasting) which featured lengthy discussions by James Wasserman, author of "The Slaves Shall Serve: Meditations on Liberty", and others. Worth watching.

It's on again twice more this week in Oregon, other regions will have to check their listings:

>Secrets Of Masons
>Episode: #102, 48 minutes
>This program uncovers the truth about the Freemasons and explores its
>surprising role in the founding of America.
>TV Wednesday, January 17, 2007 at 9:00 PM
>TV Friday, January 19, 2007 at 3:00 AM
>TV Sunday, January 21, 2007 at 4:30 PM

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robert anton wilson

harmonydawnpink — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:41:57 GMT

passed away as of last week.

as a psychic spy, i should have seen the falling
of my hero.

light a candle for this incredible man.

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BIBLICAL EVIDENCE THAT BUSH IS ANTICHRIST

AMan-ManA — Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:59:00 GMT

EXAMINING THE BIBLICAL EVIDENCE THAT BUSH IS ANTICHRIST

[Part 1 of 3]

Regarding “The End of Time” the Bible states:
"There will be signs in the heavens" (sky),
= the vast number of saucer-sightings since the 1st atomic test at Los Alamos New Mexico.
Also stating that ;
"There will be signs on earth" ...
= the many complex crop circles which incorporate sacred geometry.

The Bible also makes reference to the rebirth of the State of Israel [metaphorically “the FIG tree” in biblical lingo] as a key-sign of the end of time, saying "The fig tree will put forth its branch" (Luke 21:29), and also that "One head of the beast came back to life from the dead" … again presumably The State of Israel which was revived from the dead in 1948 … was an integral part of the Roman Empire ... referred to in the Bible as "The Beast" … and it’s current re-incarnation.

Also an important signal is the prophesy of "Wormwood" -(Revelation 8:11) the word Wormwood is "Chernobyl" in Russian … a Nuclear Facility depicted as a Fallen Star in metaphorical language (parables), stars = radioactive body … as are reactors. Wormwood is an ancient medicinal herb (Artemisia Absinthium) which has been used for thousands of years to kill internal parasites and to make a liquor called Absinth, and is known around the world by several names, but is Chernobyl in Russian.

Revelation 21:1 speaks of a “New Heaven” and a “New Earth” ... and a "New JerUSAlem". Since it’s discovery America has been referred to as “The New World” and it is a land which pursues the exploration of space (the “New Heaven”).
America fits the description of the "Promised Land" at least as well as Palestine (America being the worlds #1 producer of Milk ... the Biblical Promised Land of abundance in Exodus 31:20 "flows with milk and honey.
America was the “Land of Promise” ... because it offered religious freedom to so many persecuted religious groups in Europe ... they migrated to "The Promised Land" that’s how Caucasians got here.

So wouldn’t then the "New JerUSAlem" be the power center of the New World (as is Washington DC) ? And wouldn’t this New JerUSAlem be the place where the antichrist sets up his throne ?
TIME
It is possible that the world is much farther ahead in prophesy (1000 yrs.) than people are willing to accept having been conditioned and pre-programmed by intense institutional doctrine. They say that Anti-Christ must first set up his throne in Jerusalem. And the antichrist identity be revealed before God’s reign on earth begins (2nd Thessalonians 2:1-3).

I was asked "If this is true then what about the bible
script which says that Christ will come on his white horse with all the armies of heaven and slay the wicked, and every eye will see him"
I realized that one such bible prophesy was possibly fulfilled in the days of the crusades when the Christians took back Jerusalem, Revelation 14:20 says "The blood will run as high as the horses bridal". This event became documented history when forces led by the Knights Templar slaughtered Moslems to an extent which caused their horses to wade through rivers of blood 3 feet deep. This event is unlikely to ever happen again. I am not suggesting that Moslems are evil either, only acknowledging the reality that they and Christians have been adversaries to each other since their origins, battling over control of Jerusalem.
To Christians Moslems are antichrist to Moslems Christians are the infidels. Actually to historians they are "half-brothers" locked in a sibling rivalry.

IS GEORGE BUSH “THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST” ?
In the Bible it becomes clear that the "Image of the beast" is "THE EVIL ONE" (Rev. 20:10 with 13:15) the "False Prophet" (Pope) and "The Beast" take second lead. He is the “son” of perdition. In Genesis it states that God made his sons in his "image" ... (like father like son). Therefore should we ask ... could the "image" of the beast be someone’s son ... made in the image of their father (like father like son)? The “image of the beast was given a mouth (to speak for his father) Project Disclosure (http://www.projectdisclosure.org) reveals that George Bush senior denied access of Extraterrestrial Info to President Carter when he was director of the CIA. As long as people are focused on war visitation from heaven becomes obscured to the masses.

[part 2]
In Canada a post 9-11 CBC documentary implicated the White House and Saudi Royals in the execution of the World Trade Center Disaster, it also stated that Prescott Bush financed the Nazis ... and most profound of all … that the Bush family claims to be descended from Jesus Christ. There are books extrapolated from Egyptian scrolls including "Holy Blood Holy Grail" and "The DaVinci Codes" which state that Jesus had offspring through Magdalene. The implication of this is that George Junior claims to be the Son of God on God’s throne, executing God’s will in Washington DC. (The “NEW” Jerusalem.
A much more explicit film by blackcat@resist.ca documents about 80 pieces of evidence regarding Bush’s involvement in the 911 attack, including a bomb attached to the nose of the aircraft, the aircraft has no windows (both are clear from video footage), one of George Bush’s brothers is in charge of security at the Trade Center before the attack, the building is evacuated 2 days before attack to make wiring renovations, when it blows up the explosion is consistent with expert demolition collapse. There is too much more to include here.

Institutional Churches say that Christ will reign on earth for 1000 years, but the Bible (2 Peter 3:7 – 13) says that “1000 years is as a day and a day is as a thousand years”, so attempting to put an absolute interpretation on a story clearly written in metaphorical language is presumptuous to say the least. Should we expect the reign of Christ (also called "The Day of the
Lord) to last more than one day? Also Rev. 20:5. states that “The Dead” won’t reincarnate until the 1000 years are finished ... so there will be many people on earth who will be unaware that those thousand years ever happened and that the end has come.

666 SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER :
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads. And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. (Rev.13:16-17)
Some say that the New Corporate Government wants to implement the use of micro-chip-implants on the population, but a facsimile has been in use since 1936. At the corner on Broadway and Wall St. in NY. there was a giant neon street number sign which read "666" (Broadway) ... this was the original home of the Social Security Office of the USA ... now back in the 70's a wise man said to me .... (regarding the prophesy that “everyone had a number in their right hand or in their forehead”) ..... that most people are right-handed, and have their social security card in their right hand, or have the number memorized in their forehead. Now just as prophesized nobody can buy, sell, have a job, get benefits, or pay taxes without this number. ... In Canada this number is appropriately called a "SIN" number (sin meaning evil). 666 Broadway home to the Mark of the beast.

911 Emergency … Sept 11 2002 :
9 -11 ("Police/Ambulance/Emergency") ....
Revelation 18:9 states that the whole world will stand afar off and witness the smoke of her burning, the city which made the kings if the earth rich.
This is New York City, the hub of world commerce, and the smoke being spoken of is the twin towers of the World Trade Centre seen on TV News around the world. This attack could have happened on any day but this significant number was chosen for it to happen that day, I believe because it was a cry for help “S.O.S” (Save Our Souls) from a government drowning under the influences of foreign control.
On the night of 9-11 (morn. Of Sept 12th) at 3 am Jupiter passed through the crescent moon coming out the mouth of it … forming the sign of Islam in the sky over British Columbia Canada.

[part 3]
Reagan, Bush, and The Pope :
In 1983 when Ronald Wilson Reagan (whose name is 666 as was his address on Bellaire Ave CA) was president there was a group of Jesuit Priests who defected from the Vatican and came to L.A. publicly denouncing Reagan and Pope Jean Paul 2nd. as being the antichrist … together Reagan and The Pope worked hard with Margaret Thatcher to bring down the communist rule in the Soviet Union, one conspiracy theorist went so far as to say that the Chernobyl Nuclear Facility meltdown in April of 1986 was CIA sabotage, as this was the single most damaging event to the Soviets, being unable to cope with the disaster they had to open their borders to external help from foreign nations, the “Iron Curtain” had fallen!
That being unproven, there were several other phenomena which began during Reagan’s reign, including the advent of the AIDS epidemic. TLC’s “Evolution” documentary series revealed that HIV is a “race selective” disease as 11% of all Caucasians have an immunity to this virus, to which Asians and Negros have none, making it an excellent bio-weapon in the eyes of white military planners. It is therefore possible that Reagan started a global-bio-war in 1980.
Also there was the event of Korean Air Lines "Flight 007" on August 29, 1988 which Time magazine reported was redirected by the CIA from Alaska to fly over restricted Soviet military bases and was shot down while transmitting the data to a US spy plane outside Soviet air-space, 180 civilian lives were sacrificed for this information.
If Bush was involved in the World Trade Centre attack then he and Reagan have this in common … killing their own civilians to achieve hidden military agendas. Reagan also sold arms to Iran, one of America’s sworn enemies, and he was suspect in the mysterious death of the CIA director William Casey who died of “unknown causes” 2 days before he could testify at the Iran/Contra Congressional hearings involving Richard Secord and Oliver North, Reagan then conveniently got Alzheimer’s after leaving the presidency so as to be unavailable to answer any legal questions regarding a litany of suspicious events during his reign, including THE WEAPONIZATION OF SPACE (heaven), which Reagan called the “Star Wars” initiative.

When George Bush senior became Reagan’s vice president many were appalled that American political leaders were coming directly from the CIA. George Bush senior was later implicated in the importation of Cocaine from Latin America and the trade of weapons for drugs. Reagan and Pope Jean Paul 2nd. worked together to sabotage communism in the Soviet Union there was criticism that the church was in bed with government, also we should note that Jesus instated communism himself (Acts 2:44-45, 4:32-36, Is. 29:19, Luke 3:11) long before Marx or Lenin. Now that George Bush Jr. is president there is criticism that the Banking-Oil-Cartel / Military Industrial-complex and the Government are all in co-operation together, as they always have been but so “out-of-the-closet”.

Iraq War
The prophet Daniel spoke of a western force, which comes against Persia [Iraq/Iran] in 2 separate waves [Desert Storm and the current incursion?]
Daniel says when they say “Peace” know that the end has come.
Peace” is “SHALOM” … the Jewish greeting …
Christ refers to Daniel’s writing saying, “Then let him in Judea [northern Israel] flee into the mountains, and not look back, remember Lot’s wife” [Lot’s wife was paralyzed by looking at a nuclear blast] This war in Persia is mentioned as taking place at the time of the end.

I have been told by a religious historian that the first Popes wore a hat with Latin letters on it, and that in Latin every letter has a numerical value, and that the numerical sum of the Pope’s letters is 666.
Interestingly President Reagan and Pope Jean-Paul were both shot in the same anatomical place, being the left lung, 2 inches away from the heart.
Reagan was shot on March 30, 1981. The pope being shot May 13th 1981, 65 years after the Prophesies of Fatima, one of which was the assassination attempt on Jean Paul and another allegedly (and conveniently) was the necessity to extinguish communism in the old Soviet Union. Pope John Paul hated the Soviets because they had invaded and dominated his native Poland.

A definition from Wikipedia, the internet’s free encyclopedia states:
Samael is an important figure in Talmudic and post-Talmudic lore, a figure who is accuser, seducer, and destroyer. Legends mentioning Satan refer equally to him, such that Samael is often taken to be the true or angelic name of the Devil ... this is the story of "Uncle Sam" (The Pentagon) and (Lady Liberty … symbol of the “Illuminati”) the whore who rides the beast.

Sources close to the late Pope John Paul said the Pope confessed on his death-bed that he was very concerned that George H.W. Bush could be the Antichrist. He lobbied the leaders of many Latin American countries to oppose Bush's war resolution on Iraq. Just as Hitler used the Reichstag Fire to assume total control of Germany, Wayne Madsen wrote in Counterpunch, "There is a perception within the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy that a coup d'etat was implemented, one that gave Bush and his leadership near-dictatorial powers to carry out their agenda." There was also the concern that the blood lust evident in Bush as a governor of Texas who executed more criminals than any governor in history would produce a slaughter of innocents. To commit such slaughter in the name of Christ would be an unparalleled blasphemy and proof that Bush was the Antichrist.

The author does not present any of this as fact and is aware that attempting to “externalize” evil and project it onto an “antichrist” may only be a diversion from seeing their own similar characteristics.

Copyright © 2006 Sacred WinePress: All rights reserved, no part of this text may be reproduced, stored in a database or other retrieval system, or transmitted in any form by any means, including mechanical, electronic, photocopying, recording or otherwise, without credit to the publisher.

2007-2012
http://www.nostradamusonline.com/

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A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ONE AND ALL

Dr Dominic — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:03:29 GMT

A merry Christmas to you all, take a look at this forum , come and have a chat
http://groups.msn.com/KNIGHTSOFCHINTAMANISTONETEMPLAR/_whatsnew.msnw

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Native Americans groups fight to recover lost skulls of Geronimo.

DVDBurner — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 05:49:13 GMT

it's from 2003, but I never heard the results. Here they are anyway. (plus I did not see it in this tribe.):

http://www.yaleherald.com/article.php?Article=2523

Of skulls and bones: More secrets of the tomb
Native Americans groups fight to recover lost skulls of Geronimo.
BY NOAM RUDNICK

An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb, and Pat[riarch] Bush entered and started to dig...Pat[riarch] James dug deep and pried out the trophy itself...I showered and hit the hay...a happy man...''

So recounts a document thought to be an internal record from the Skull and Bones Society. "Pat[riarch] Bush" is Prescott Bush, father of an American political dynasty. His "trophy" is the skull of Geronimo, the Native American spiritual and military leader laid to rest in 1909 at Fort Still, Oklahoma, where Bush and fellow Bonesmen were stationed nine years later.

Alexandra Robbins, ES '98, has researched Bush's secret society extensively. Her recent book, Secrets of the Tomb, has heightened interest in the activities of Skull and Bones. She attests to the legitimacy of the story, "The text looks to be an authentic Bones document describing Prescott Bush and other Bonesmen robbing Geronimo's grave and cleaning the skull with carbolic acid." In interviews with Robbins, Bonesmen have admitted that there is a skull in the tomb that they call Geronimo.

Current Members of Skull and Bones chose not to comment on the legitimacy of the allegations.

Apache tribal leader Ned Anderson was informed of the alleged theft in 1986. As an ancestor of Geronimo, Anderson petitioned the Federal Bureau of Investigations to force the return of the skull. Noting that Apaches have a "great fear and respect for death," Anderson said that he hoped to honor Geronimo's express wish to be laid to rest in "Arizona acorn country."

Unwilling to remove himself from the case entirely and yield all his evidence to the FBI, Anderson withdrew his request for action. Instead, he arranged to meet with George H. W. Bush's, DC '48, brother Jonathan in New York City. Anderson recounts that Bush sounded "very encouraging" during their initial meeting. Eleven days later, Bush presented the display case. Anderson refused to accept the skull because it appeared to belong to a small child. Bush acknowledged this fact but claimed that it was the only relevant artifact in the society's possession.

He urged Anderson to accept the display and sign a document verifying that the society was not in possession of Geronimo's skull. Anderson refused.

Since the meeting in Manhattan, no further efforts to recover the skull have been made. Anderson puts great faith in the Bonesmen. "I believe that those who are involved need to come clean on this," he said. "I think they'll come around and do what is appropriate."

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The skull of Geronimo, an Apache chief, is rumored to be in the possession of Skull and Bones.
Jim Adams, managing editor of Indian Country Today, provides an explanation for the notable absence of recovery efforts. "Apache tribal governments seem reluctant to raise the issue because it does violate taboos about speaking about the dead. This doesn't mean they're not concerned; rather they have their own laws of secrecy."

Native Americans are far from unconcerned. Adams' publication, the leading Native American news source, has run several articles on the secret society's alleged possession of the skull. On Oct. 6, 60 Minutes televised a segment on Skull and Bones that briefly addressed the society's posession of Geronimo's skull.

James Craven, an economics professor at Clark College, suggests that such media exposure is leading to action. "In the near future, there will finally be large groups of Natives showing up in front of 'the tomb' to protest this ugly racism and grave robbing by the Bones, and they will not be leaving until that skull and any other Native artifacts have been returned."

Adams expressed similar sentiments. "My sense is that American Indians in general are appalled—outraged by the accusation, but not surprised," he said. "Remains of ancestors have been exploited and desecrated for centuries in the name of anthropology or simply for idle curiosity. But even by these standards, it's bizarre and embarrassing that a supposedly elite group would use the remains of any human being for its own entertainment."

Supposing the grave-robbing allegations are true, why would the Skull and Bones be interested in the head of Geronimo? Robbins suggests that the answer lies in their name. "Bones as a society is preoccupied with death; skulls, skeletons, and artwork depicting death are prevalent in the tomb. When Bonesmen steal things they use the euphemism that they are taking 'gifts to the goddess' whom they honor within the tomb." The focus on death is not arbitrary. The society emphasizes mortality in order to illustrate the necessity of success.

Robbins, herself a member of Scroll and Key, attests to the centrality of ritualized stealing in many of the societies at Yale. Each class attempts to outdo its predecessor in the acquisition of valuables. In addition to Geronimo's skull, the Bonesmen's tomb is rumored to contain the skull of Pancho Villa and Adolf Hitler's silverware.

Robbins expresses outrage at Skull and Bones' behavior. "I think it's ridiculous that Bonesmen's sense of entitlement is broad enough to include items that allegedly don't belong to them. The items they supposedly steal as a prank or competition may be valuable and meaningful to the actual owners. It's appalling that proper authorities have not forced their way into the tomb to retrieve the items that don't belong in there."

The legality of Skull and Bones' behavior is dubious. According to Adams, members of Skull and Bones have violated laws preventing the desecration of graves and should be held responsible as felons. "If it is true that Skull and Bones and its corporate parent RTA Inc., continue to hold these skulls, my belief would be that they are participating in a continuing conspiracy to be in possession of stolen property." Many are quick to cite the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act as grounds for prosecuting Skull and Bones. Ironically, it was George H. W. Bush, DC '48, a member of Skull and Bones, who signed this bill into law in 1990. However, NAGPRA only applies to organizations that receive federal funding. The University, in fact, was forced to return certain artifacts previously held by its Peabody Museum in accordance with the bill. However, secret societies are not directly affiliated with the University, exempting them from NAGPRA jurisdiction.

While the society's exemption from NAGPRA relies on financial independence from Yale, the two organizations are in fact closely intertwined. As Robbins emphasizes, the administration hasn't taken steps against the societies because administrators have historically been members. To this day, prominent figures on the Yale faculty and administration are members of Yale secret societies. There has always been a kinship between society men at the faculty, administration, and undergraduate levels. This close connection may explain Yale's failure to investigate the activity of certain students.

In addition to being high-ranking members of the Yale administration, members of Skull and Bones work in important governmental positions. The upcoming presidential election could potentially pit Bonesman against Bonesman.

George Bush, DC '68, and John Kerry, JE '66, both members of the society, could be hurt by their involvement in an organization that allegedly takes part illegal behavior. "I think these politicians are caught in a real conflict between their loyalty to Bones and their oaths as public servants if they don't take positive steps to return any human remains. The reports about Geronimo certainly poison relations between the Presidency and the tribes," Adams said.

Whatever the repercussions, many see the society's behavior as wholly reprehensible, particularly among those who would run for high public office. "[The theft] is a metaphor for something much bigger and even uglier. It is the ugly racism and hubris of the in-bred power elites who seek to infiltrate positions of power," Craven said.

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Psychic Spies

in-PHI-net — Mon, 08 May 2006 06:31:36 GMT

Can anyone tell me more about this?

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Masons struggle with racial separation

DVDBurner — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:54:52 GMT

By JAY REEVES, Associated Press Writer Mon Oct 23, 1:47 PM ET
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - The Masons, the storied fraternal order whose members have included Mozart, George Washington and John Wayne, has become entwined across the Deep South with the remnants of another tradition in these parts: strict segregation.

Nationwide, Masonic groups operate in a separate-but-supposedly-equal system in which whites typically join one network of Masonic groups, called Grand Lodges, and blacks typically join another, called Prince Hall.

But in the South, it goes further: White-controlled Grand Lodges in 12 Southern states do not even officially recognize black Masons as their brothers — the Masonic term is "mutual recognition" — and in some cases, black lodges have taken similar stands.

Masons have quietly debated race relations for years, and the issue is increasingly coming into public view.

In Alabama, some dissident whites have split from the lodge system, and Republican Gov. Bob Riley's membership in an all-white lodge has drawn fire in his campaign for a second term. In North Carolina, white Masons recently voted down a bid to recognize members of the black group as fellow Masons.

"Only the states of the old Confederacy, minus Virginia and plus West Virginia, don't have mutual recognition," said Paul Bessel, a Maryland Mason who wrote a book on the topic. "There are, I'm sorry to say, some Masons who are racists. But the vast majority don't feel that way."

Grand Lodges and Prince Hall groups coexist with few problems and officially recognize each other in 38 states and the District of Columbia, with members free to mingle and attend each other's meetings. Frank Chandler, a leader of the black Masonic group in Delaware, was happy to see mutual recognition granted in his state last month.

"The importance of it to me is that this is 2006. If we as black folks and they as white folks can't live together, we're got real problems," said Chandler, a retired Delaware state trooper.

But Bessel said the separation in the Deep South is entrenched and remains in Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia.

It also extends to Shriners, the men who wear funny red hats and operate a network of 22 charity hospitals for children. Shriners draw all their members from Masonry, and many of their policies are based on Masonic rules, Bessel said.

The Masonic movement, also known as Freemasonry, began in Enlightenment-area England and is known for its white aprons and architectural symbols. It came to the United States more than 250 years ago. Mainstream Masonry was controlled by whites, so blacks began meeting at lodges of their own in the 1770s; the organization that resulted was later named for one of the founders, Prince Hall.

The all-black lodges flourished alongside their white counterparts. White Masons in Washington state, briefly considered admitting Prince Hall Masons in 1890, Bessel said, but the resulting uproar kept most such proposals on hold until 1989, when the Grand Lodge of Connecticut passed a resolution formally recognizing black Masons.

Since then, 37 other state organizations have granted mutual recognition.

In Alabama, where critics say Grand Lodge members rejected a move to recognize black Masons in 1999, a few white Masons have formed a group outside the old system.

The issue also has become political, with Democrats accusing Alabama's governor of racism for his membership in an all-white lodge. Riley said he didn't know there were two separate Masonic groups and hadn't heard of mutual recognition until questioned recently by an Associated Press reporter.

This fall, white Masons in North Carolina refused to grant recognition to Prince Hall Masons. The vote was 681 for recognition and 404 against — just short of the two-thirds majority required, according to Ric Carter, editor of the state's Masonic newspaper. Black Masons in North Carolina granted recognition of white Masons in 2004.

The whites' refusal to reciprocate "raises the ugly head of racism, segregation, all over again," said the leader of Prince Hall Masons in North Carolina, Milton G. "Toby" Fitch Jr., a state judge and former majority leader in the North Carolina House.

"The best analogy I can give is Baptist churches: You have black Baptist churches, and you have white Baptist churches. But they both recognize each other as being Baptist. We are talking about accepting the fact that `you practice Masonry and I practice Masonry.'"

The head of Prince Hall Masons in Arkansas, Cleveland Wilson, said neither black nor white groups there have discussed mutual recognition. Extending Masonic brotherhood would be nice, he said, "but we're fine without them."

"I'm of the attitude that since they haven't shown any interest, I'm not interested either," Wilson said.

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secret socs keys to immortality..are you ready?

Dr Dominic — Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:38:33 GMT

hello
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in the light
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ORMUS, ORME....WHITE GOLD ...The manna, the white powder of gold, is the food, the light, one takes into their body. It is the FOOD OF THE GODS. A modern day Rabbi might tell you that no one has known how to make the manna, the white powder of Gold, since the destruction of the Temple of Solomon. The technique is, supposedly, a lost art or lost knowledge. But others argue that when the high priests left the Temple (when it was destroyed), the took the secret out into the desert and organized a commune called Qumrun. There, they became the Essenes. Eventually, the white powder was used to nourish a woman named Mary, and eventually, she gave birth to a man named Jesus.
These gifts include: perfect telepathy, the ability to know good and evil when it’s present, and to project thoughts into another person’s mind. There is also the ability to levitate, or to walk on water. By excluding all external magnetic fields (including the Earth’s gravity), the white powder of gold takes one beyond the four dimensional space time continuum, and the individual becomes a fifth dimensional being. They can literally think where they would like to be, and go there. They can heal by the laying on of hands, and can cleanse and resurrect the dead within two or three days after they died. They have so much energy that they can literally embrace people and bring light and energy back into them. We the International Order Of Knight Templars have the keys to Immortality.The International Order of Knight Templars has many hidden esoteric keys about ormus , immortality and 2012.
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The Triangle in the Circle

yared — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:09:32 GMT

I have seen it by accident really when I drove to the local piercing/tattoo shop. It was accompanied by the words "The Pointer Fellowship". Any suggestions???

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real e.t photograph..is this a conspiracy?

Dr Dominic — Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:17:00 GMT

hello,
Immortality will be a reality by 2012 , the reality of this will be disclosed on this forum below:
:
http://groups.msn.com/KNIGHTSOFCHINTAMANISTONETEMPLAR/_whatsnew.msnw

the truth of Immortality will fed to the people who have an opened mind , also the truth can be obtained from nmy book ORMUS found at

http://www.authorhouse.co.uk/

click onto bookshop then ORMUS
light and life
dominic

p.s there is a real picture of an E.T on the front of the book

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Illuminati / Freemason Signature

Rocky — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:56:55 GMT

The Illuminati / Freemason Signature 11, 13 and 33

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/13_33_freemason_sig.htm

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Electromagnetic Warfare

Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:38:15 GMT

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/electromagnetic-warfare

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BLOODLINES OF THE ILLUMINATI

marvindublin — Sat, 15 Apr 2006 03:20:00 GMT

http://www.whale.to/b/sp/bloodlines.html

About a book.

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Lucifer

Pilsbury — Tue, 01 Feb 2005 05:12:58 GMT

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/luciferquotes.html

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Who uses this symbol?????

Kevin — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:44:40 GMT

I've seen it in black only.
A circle with a triangle inside? Triangle is point up. Nothing else.
I have seen it on building with nothing else to explain, now I have seen it as a tattoo.

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SECRET PSYCIETY 666 Gathering

wilma — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:52:59 GMT

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c28/UVART/666flyer.jpg

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Do they still exist?

patasapien — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:29:15 GMT

Ok, I don't generaly dip more than my toe in the pool of secret society theory, however just out of curiostity I thought I would pose this question.

I read at some point somthing (I do not recall what) somthing about the platonists, and the ancient brotherhood of pythagoras still being around...

so the question:

Anyone know if there is any substance to this?

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Does anyone know anything about the Stuarts?

BKLYN — Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:03:54 GMT

I have been researching me geneology and have discovered that I come from a long line of Stuarts including Mary Stuart herself. My family comes from the Isle of Iona in Scotland. I am not sure this is a possitive thing but I am very curious nonetheless.

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History Channel

Christine 16 — Mon, 22 May 2006 02:00:49 GMT

All day today there have been hours long documentaries on societies such as the Knights Templar, and the Free Masons.

I'm on the West Coast, so watch it if you can. It's still on.

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New CONSPIRACY tribe for those that may be interested.

marvindublin — Tue, 09 May 2006 01:06:22 GMT

http://tribes.tribe.net/conspiracypureevil

How now brown cow!!! Eeee Heee!!!!

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pump up the info

sonofperdition — Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:12:18 GMT

http://tribes.tribe.net/knowingisthekey

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MUSICIANS FOR FREEDOM:

in-PHI-net — Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:44:57 GMT

Tribe Link

http://tribes.tribe.net/singer_songwriters_unite_for_freedom <<<< Please fell free to Join!

This is a place where all people who write, sing, play music, who DJ, love, create, and produce their own music get together to share their song, soul, & dreams with passion.....to exchange ideas, connect, inspire ................It's open to all: non-artists and artists alike! Come feel free & share with other musicians to connect, network, smooze, dance, groove....your inner dreams ecstatic. Music is a sacred force to be shared with all and honored collectively, not hoarded, censored and over processed in the vast shallow games of commercial competition and false fame that sometimes breathes its fumes into the industry...... . In essence Music is eternal and open to all who are free enough to tap into its unlimited streaming power. ....................Welcome to this Tribe!

Yo, In the Beggining was Music, sound, was the Word (tone) of immutable strength. All of creation is born from Sound. Imagine what the first 'note' or tone was? Aummmmm...... yea.........beautiful.

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10 Secret Societies you may want to know about:

in-PHI-net — Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:35:45 GMT

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/10-secret-societies-you-need-to-know-about

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where to go?

igor — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:36:35 GMT

Where to go if I have positive conspirator talent (thinking)?
Igor

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Chapelle Conspiracy

Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:53:49 GMT

http://www.chappelletheory.com/index.html

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What The Hell

Killa Cham — Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:14:25 GMT

There was a Skull and Crossbones insignia on the popes coffin what the hell was that.

He had a lead coffin, a wood one, and another one. pretty creepy.

1) Cypress the innermost coffin, signifies the popes humanity

2) 800 pound lead coffin bears a skull and crossbones insignia

3) The outer elm coffin symbolizes the dignity of the pope and allows him to be carried in a wooden coffin like any other person.

What the hell does the 800-pound lead skull and crossbones coffin symbolize?

I have lost all faith in humanity

;-(

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Sam Alito Supreme Court Nominee Heavily Invested in Slaughterhouses -

veganesh — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:49:52 GMT

Sam Alito Supreme Court Nominee Heavily Invested in Slaughterhouses -

Sam Alito twice broke his promise to recuse himself from
Vanguard lawsuits in which he is heavily invested. Vanguard is perhaps of publicly investigated mutual funds the one most heavily invested in several kinds of slaughterhouse operations.

Slaughterhouse, safari hunt and other money has in some cases gone underground with private equity funds. The British are less forthcoming
about stockholders than Americans.

www.senate.gov
202 224 3121
God defeat this nomination.

VANGUARD: INVESTED IN ANIMAL SLAUGHTERHOUSES

Vanguard manages more than US $700 billion and has
more than 5000 institutional investors. It is invested
in many slaughterhouse and war operations.
1 It is the major investor in the world's most corrupt bank,
Citibank whose chairman helped jailed Bernie Ebbers buy Canada's
biggest cattle ranch with stolen MCI customer money.
2 It is a major investor in McDonald's (and since NPR has 200 million
in McDonald's stock,
... the 'public radio' network promoted Vanguard)
28,385,755 2.24 $883,932,410 31-Mar-05
3. It is a major investor in Yums, owner of the boycotted KFC
www.kfccruelty.com and of Taco Bell which finally settled with
unions.
4. It is a major investor in Lonestar Steak House which causes
cancer, heart disease, slaughterhouse agony, and deforestation.
(THE) 409,292 1.99 $11,832,631 31-Mar-05
5. It is a major investor in Triarc (Arby's beef)
6. Wendy's Vanguard is a major investor in the world's
3rd largest cowslaughter fast food chain
7. Vanguard is invested in SBC, a pricegouging conglomerate illegal
in Teddy Roosevelt's days
8. It is invested in Dominion, a gas company which has
been pricegouging the poor with doubling of charges.
9. It is a major investor in ConAgra.. 'butterball' turkeys
and other slaughterhouse items.
10. It is invested in Goldman Sachs, neocon warmonger.

John Bogle its CEO has been touted on NPR
because both are heavily invested in McDonald's. NPR was
allegedly left 200 million in McDonald's stock by Joan Kroc.
It is indeed humorous that Bogle would write a book on
business ethics.

Some of the other funds heavily invested in animal agony: Barclay's, J P Morgan Chase,
Goldman Sachs, Fidelity, Charles Schwab

------
Those who are not vegetarian or vegan might consider that
the incubation period of Mad Cow, Mad Deer, Mad Pig, Mad Chicken,
Mad Fish etc is 50 years according to Dr David Heymann of the CDC
speaking on the CBC... Heymann is one of the few truthtellers
at the pharmaceutically dominated CDC. Any investment in animal
flesh is unwise.

The British are less forthcoming
about stockholders than Americans.
Quote:

Republicans always find it hard
to get out the numbers... in some
cities they hand out tickets to Democrats
when their high paid speakers paid for
with public money come
to town.. in order to swell the audience

Yesterday, as unelected Bush nominee
Sam Alito was questioned by senators,
there were Rent A Republican mobs
outside. It was a hastily done affair..
virtually
everyone with the same sign.

Neocon CNN owned illegally by Neocon
Time Warner... gave frequent flash coverage
to this small group of people.

Poster saw this standing in line
at a grocery store.

www.senate.gov

God end now all violence to any being and listen to
St Francis and Leonardo, two animal rights activists, want
this nomination defeated.

_________________
www.worldanimalnet.org
ivu.org
pcrm.org
www.alitosamerica.org
www.internationalanswer.org
www.network54.com/forum/460325
news108.forumup.org

With the string of state murders in the US ratified by the 'Supreme' Court,
one can only describe the 5 judges who have executed with their
pens... 'serial killers'. They have ratified torture, installed an unelected
pawn of war profiteers, ravaged our earth.
The Supreme Court is the only 18th Century institution unchanged.
Since 1776, the Senate has become popularly elected (in theory..
although Diebold ESS Sequoia Pacific Triad etc. have changed that
www.whatreallyhappened.com/vote...html)
The US is one of the few socalled democracies not electing its high court.
Reformers have suggested an 18 year term, with 1 justice elected
every 1 or 2 years.

One way to find in what investments a corporation, mutual fund
etc. holds... go to finance.yahoo.com type in the symbol
for that entity, and then scroll down on left to 'major holders'.

MSN has such a service too with more listings.

-------
Sen Feinstein is a war profiteer, married to URS' Richard Blum,
who has received a several hundred million dollar contract
for a company which manages the checks for US mercenary contractors
such as CACI, Titan, Blackwater Security and other
torturers, in some cases paying mercenaries $2000 a day, stolen
from America's poor.

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Hasan-i Sabbah: Assassins

Shooter-666 — Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:16:16 GMT

So, I am hanging out in Kabul for a while. I think I may look into these folks here. Any thoughts? My familiarity is based on what little I read by WSB and RAW. I did a google and found a few things. ANyone have a really good link on Hasan-i Sabbah?

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Vatican: Templar apology considered

Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:19:36 GMT

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1379629,00.html

The last crusade of the Templars
By Ruth Gledhill
The knights want a Papal apology nearly 700 years after they were disbanded and hounded into exile

THE VATICAN is giving “serious consideration” to apologising for the persecution that led to the suppression of the Knights Templar.
The suppression, which began on Friday , October 13, 1307, gave Friday the Thirteenth its superstitious legacy.

A Templar Order in Britain that claims to be descended from the original Knights Templar has asked that the Pope should make the apology.

The Templars, based in Hertford, are hoping for an apology by 2007, the 700th anniversary of the start of the persecution, which culminated with the torture and burning at the stake of the Grand Master Jacques de Molay for heresy and the dissolution of the Order by apostolic decree in 1312.

The letter, signed by the Secretary of the Council of Chaplains on behalf of the Grand Master of the Poor Fellow Soldiers of Jesus Christ and the Temple of Solomon Grand Preceptory, with a PO box address in Hertford, formally requests an apology “for the torture and murder of our leadership”, instigated by Pope Clement V.

“We shall witness the 700th anniversary of the persecution of our order on 13th October 2007,” the letter says. “It would be just and fitting for the Vatican to acknowledge our grievance in advance of this day of mourning.”

Apologies have already been made by the Roman Catholic Church for the persecution of Galileo and for the Crusades. The Templars hope that these precedents will make their suit more likely to succeed.

Hertford Templar Tim Acheson, who is descended from the Scottish Acheson family that has established Templar links and whose family lived until recently in Bailey Hall, Hertford, said: “This letter is a serious attempt by a Templar group which traces its roots back to the medieval Order to solicit an apology from the Papacy.”

He added: “The Papacy and the Kingdom of France conspired to destroy the Order for reasons which modern historians judge to be primarily political. Their methods and motives are now universally regarded as brutal, unfair and unjustified.

“The Knights Templar officially ceased to exist in the early 1300s, but the order continued underground. It was a huge organisation and the vast majority of Templars survived the persecution, including most of their leaders, along with much of their treasure and, most importantly, their original values and traditions.”

The Hertford Mercury newspaper has reported newly discovered Templar links with Hertford, including a warren of tunnels beneath the town. At the heart of the maze of tunnels is Hertford Castle, where in 1309 four Templars from Temple Dinsley near Hitchin were imprisoned after their arrest by Edward II, who believed that they were holding a lost treasure. The treasure was never found.

When Subterranea Britannica, a group of amateur archaeologists, expressed an interest in investigating Hertford’s tunnels last month, they received anonymous threats telling them not to.

The Templars captured Jerusalem during the Crusades and were known as “keepers of the Holy Grail”, said to be the cup used at the Last Supper or as the receptacle used by Joseph of Arimathea to catch Christ’s blood as he bled on the Cross, or both.

Interest in the Templars and the Holy Grail is at an unprecedented high after the success of books such as The Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown, and the earlier Holy Blood Holy Grail, by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln, which claimed that Jesus survived the crucifixion and settled in France.

The Knights Templar were founded by Hugh de Payens, a French knight from the Champagne area of Burgundy, and eight companions in 1118 during the reign of Baldwin II of Jerusalem, when they took a perpetual vow to defend the Christian kingdom. They were assigned quarters next to the Temple. In 1128, they took up the white habit of the Cistercians, adding a red cross. The order knights, sergeants, farmers and chaplains amassed enormous wealth.

In Rome, a Vatican spokesman said that the demand for an apology would be given “serious consideration”. However, Vatican insiders said that the Pope, 84, was under pressure from conservative cardinals to “stop saying sorry” for the errors of the past, after a series of papal apologies for the Crusades, the Inquisition, Christian anti-Semitism and the persecution of scientists and “heretics” such as Galileo.

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Severed balls and fingers

Swaz — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:46:03 GMT

Well no one seems to have mentioned the Skoptsi so I guess I'll mention them. I'd google it and pretend to show you all how smart I am, but I'm lazy and I'll just mention it from memory. If memory serves me correct all initiates had to castrate themselves. All mannor of implements were tried. Some died as a result, but hey! Loose them balls and you can be a lifetime member. Heaven's Gate also encouraged these shinanigans.

While I'm on the subject I guess I'll mention the Haitian Voodoo cult that requires initiates to cut half a finger off that they put in a big jar with all the other severed fingers. I had heard about them for a while with some scepticism until they showed the capture of some guy on America's Most Wanted.

Sure nuf! He had half a finger missin. Okay now you can all argue and do my research for me and I'll take credit. Thanks.

Swaz
卐

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Multidimensional Blacklight Masquerade NYE 05/06 Las Vegas

wilma — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:19:21 GMT

Celebrate New years eve in a full on multidimensional blacklight abstract experience, overlooking Las Vegas City on the Rooftop level of the Binion's Gaming Hall and Hotel.

Artists, friends, families, lovers, sinners and dreamers will have the zounds of electronic music ( psytrance, acid house, techno, house, ableton live set) to live percussion/electronic (Floob!) and a nite of UVART™ 3D Visual Projections on the huge walls of Binion hotel. The rest is a chronicle :).

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Jordan Maxwell on Infowars Radio!

Abraxas2k12 — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:51:54 GMT

Alex Jones interviews preeminent researcher of the occult and secret societies, Jordan Maxwell. http://www.JordanMaxwell.com

http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0VZHOYAUBCUYE0KILUUUVW31O2
http://d18.yousendit.com/F/0VZHOYAUBCUYE0KILUUUVW31O2/Jordan%20Maxwell%20on%20the%20Alex%20Jones%20Show.zip

I haven't listened to it yet, but I've been wondering for a long time if Jones would ever interview Maxwell. He's got Jordan in a short clip in one of his films, but I would guess Jones doesn't agree with everything Maxwell has to say re: Christianity and the origins of religion, so I was wondering if an interview would ever happen. Can't wait to hear it myself.

http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker

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Hm...

Abraxas2k12 — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:06:25 GMT

I see that the Masonry thread was deleted.

Interesting.

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A small yet powerful Hindu Siddhi..

Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:14:10 GMT

A small recitation, done during Navratra (October one)..recited just 27 times, facing north in the nights..is highly effective Siddhi to ward off every calamity. Must be repeated every year during Navratra. One must have a Ma Durga photo/idol in front. Burn an oil lamp to HER right ; incense to HER left. Sitting on red asana & offerring red flowers to her ..recite:-

"AUM Namo-a-stute Bhagwate, Paarshwa Chandraa-dharendra Padmaavati Sahitaaye ,may abheeshta siddhim;
Dushtagraha bhasm bhakshyam swaaha,
Swaami prasaade kuroo kuroo swaaha;
Hillihilli Maatangani Swaaha,
Swaami prasaade kuroo kuroo swaaha".

Daily 27 times for 9 nights of Navratra. When in danger, just recite it 7 times & blow thrice shoulder to shoulder. You will be safe.

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Knight or Dame

Dr Dominic — Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:15:44 GMT

hello everyone,
I am offering the hand of friendship.
If anyone has the aspiration of becoming a Knight Templar or Dame PLEASE CONTACT ME ON THIS FORUM:http://groups.msn.com/KNIGHTSOFTHELIGHT/_whatsnew.msnw?lc=2057

and tribe forum supreme knight templar order
many thanks
dominic

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Introducing..

Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:38:44 GMT

Hi everyone......

I'm new to this tribe. Hence, the introduction.

I was directed to this by a dear friend and wellwisher Mike DeVito. Everything about me can be gathered, both, from my profile, as

well as from my website.

With the humble knowledge that I have in esoteric sciences, my main aim of my visits to US for past few years (on a regular basis)

is to create a 'true awareness' among people about 'what lies ahead' as the FUTURE for my friends/clients...

Yes, after having spent a huge amount on tickets, stay & other expenses, the remuneration also has to be considered.

Unlike other visits, this time I intend to do things on individual basis. Starting with their Vedic Astrological Chart and moving on to

'solving' all kinds of problems through Mantras, Tantra, Gem Therapy and personal teachings based on ancient Hindu tenets.

I'll be coming to U.S around Feb/March.& having base mainly in L.A.& Colorado .

Going to other places is still tentative....All depends on the 'economic' factors listed above...Pl.do let me know if that is possible

and how.
>
> Sincerely;
>
> Chandan

IM's: Yahoo & AOL: ceegee29
MSN: tantrik29
eMail address: iamtantrik@yahoo.com
Website: www.newspiritservices.com/gems.html

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Blacklight Nite Gallery @ UVART Camp BM 05

wilma — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:48:22 GMT

3D Portal presentation of DJ Feather's original Paintings are presented for interactive encounters with your Psyche at this year's Burningman Event.

Conscious, Subconscious, Unconscious and Absolute Freedom through UVART.

Glimpses of sample artworks are @ www.uvart.org or www.uvart.net

remember to bring your 3D glasses :).

love all,

wilma

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Rosicruscian address

Swaz — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:19:49 GMT

There is a cool building in San Jose that is the seat of the Rosicrutians in the U.S. (I guess) anyway they have the coolest snail-mail address. If you want to write them drop a postcard addressed to AMORC SAN JOSE. (American Masonic Order Roseicrutians ?)

Swaz

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This year's Grove Play

amor — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:15:06 GMT

Some comments on the on-going Bohemian Grove encampment in my tribe blog:

http://sanfrancisco.tribe.net/template/pub%2Coc%2CDetail.vm?plugin=blog&inst=13128&_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5Beabe5ca8-3fb0-4a29-982d-6371ceceb4f3%5D&r=10535&topicId=5661943d-511e-4852-8e40-46e2dfb39858

And a cursory look at this year's Grove Play, BULLY! to be premiered this weekend.

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Ceremonial Magick/Ritual Magick Tribe

Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:42:22 GMT

My new tribe, is the Ceremonial Magick/Ritual Magick tribe. I thought that this included many different topics, which allowed us to maybe have more discussion, since it was more general, then the different tribes that have all of these subjects spread out. This would include many different traditions, sort of a meeting place of the minds, and also an information center for different gatherings going on around the country, classes through correspondence, different informational websites, things of that nature. I think that if it gets going, it will be a fantastic list.

Lilith Gigipah

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I am the Roswell crash pilot.

zargon — Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:57:26 GMT

I can prove it,but you all seem to be more interested in just speculating about it.
I need to contact some friends I met in Roswell the day I crashed.One of them is still alive,but won't talk to me.
Forget.I just won't get help on this from anyone.I know it now.
Roswell was not a weather balloon event.I crashlanded a flying saucer,the prototype of which is still in Kirtland airforce base and accessable to view if you have someone with enough persuasive influence to speak to the commander of the base. I don't think you know such a person.Too bad.
Don't worry,the full story is about to come out.Goodbye.Earthings.

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Uber conspiracy

JasonLee — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:39:03 GMT

if you can handle it...
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/flynn.htm

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Help ?

Quinto — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:58:49 GMT

Can anyone ?

Please ?

Help ?

Out of curiosity : There is a long ancestry of divination in my family going both sides.

Yet I was never able to be read by anyone.

No fancy horoscope calculations or anything.

Just a birthday, hour of birth and name to tell anything about me ?

AM I strange ?

qb

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hi, I'm new

Stacie — Mon, 09 May 2005 04:38:06 GMT

Just waving and watching quietly.

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Ink on Hands

rox — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:18:23 GMT

A man came into my work the other day - good looking, mid length black hair, dark suit, striking blue eyes - as he paid i noticed on the top of his right hand a large cross (+) that had symbols within each open area. one looked like a thick filled in cross (+) - but not an iron cross, the other was almost a tombstone shaped symbol - i could not catch the top half of the symbols in their entirity because his jacket sleeve hid them.
these symbols and their meanings are utterly foriegn to me - though he and whatever was on his hand peaked my interest for the night.
as did the fact that when i turned to get another look at him - he was gone.
- it might be something personal; religious; or otherwise. from what i saw I narrowed down a a few things that they were definitely not.
any ideas?

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Anyone remember Roberto Calvi??

Colin — Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:54:17 GMT

4 Indicted in Italian Financier's Death

ROME - Four people were indicted Monday on murder charges in the death of Italian financier Roberto Calvi, a banker with close ties to the Vatican who was found hanging under a bridge in London in 1982, a defense attorney said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=535&e=7&u=/ap/20050418/ap_on_re_eu/italy_god_s_banker

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Manitoba Legislature's Occult Design

Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:02:22 GMT

http://www.canada.com/fortstjohn/story.html?id=ddf26c16-947f-419f-923f-3c832899c434

Professor says Legislature design has roots in the occult

Thursday, February 17, 2005

WINNIPEG - A Winnipeg professor argues that the Manitoba legislature has occult roots.

Frank Albo, of the University of Winnipeg, says that after years of study, he's convinced Manitoba's legislature is actually an architectural talisman built to the specifications of the same divine blueprints found in ancient temples.

Among the things that kept cropping up were numbers five, eight and 13.

He says the numerical segment is found often in nature, and is considered by many to be a ''blueprint for the plan of God.''

Albo found the lieutenant-governor's reception room had cubit dimensions matching those of King Solomon's inner sanctum.

However, the cubits used were those favoured by the Freemasons, a fraternal group known for its secret rituals and interest in the occult.

Fuelled by a resurgence in numerology spawned by the book The Da Vinci Code, Albo has presented his theories to architectural experts, art historians and even Freemasons all over the world.

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There are no Secrets no more

wilma — Mon, 11 Apr 2005 02:27:40 GMT

I have read these books and recommends to those whod like to use them as a RESEARCH resources. It illuminates some of the history and present future occurences and provides further reference books and readings on secret societies ( which arent that secret really!).

The Biggest Secret and The Truth Shall Set you Free by David Icke.

One of the further reading i have that i took from those two books is The Awakening to Zero Point by Gregg Braden.

Enjoy. and Love all,

wilma

Infinite Love is the only truth, everything is illusion.

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Skull and Bones and Communism

Pilsbury — Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:55:45 GMT

Whacka doo whacka doo

http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/3/commiebones.htm

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P2 and the murdered Pope.

Swaz — Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:46:54 GMT

Who thinks Pope John Paul I was assassinated by the secret quasi-masonic / mafia-connected order known as P2? He was going to open the Vatican books and died 33 days after becoming Pope. Lot's of people think so. Here's a debate:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread115698/pg1

Swaz

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Mind Control

CrashFerguson — Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:12:30 GMT

http://www.americawestandasone.com/video.html

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can't deny the truth

Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:43:41 GMT

are there any forums for this kind of thing that have less crazy-sounding people? Am I a crazy sounding people? A recent idea of mine is to prove that the Grateful Dead was created in part to brainwash and corral the "liberal" masses. What do you think? Ask me for proof. I really research a lot of this stuff and I totally believe our leaders are using esoteric knowledge to hold onto power. I guess that's a given. But I don't think its doom and gloom, just true. There's a lot to life on earth. Its beautiful, too.

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krishnas- arms dealers?

satireDUN — Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:02:59 GMT

thats what i heard was going on in berkeley way back in those crazy 60s. and has anyone else noticed the irony that this group is a public one?

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new pics

Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:45:30 GMT

new pics

odo ab chao

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Black Klansmen?

Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:38:01 GMT

"So, you don't believe there ever were Negro (Black, Colored, Afro-American - what ever they want to be called these days) members of the Ku Klux Klan??? Well read on!

One of the last things today's biased media wants anyone to know is that there were Negro members of the Ku Klux Klan. No one has ever written a book about them to my knowledge though such a book would be of great historical interest. In fact, very little documentation has survived. What little does survive speaks volumes and proves that Americans do not know their own history. Here I will simply give my sources of information and quote from them. If anyone has further documentation about the Black membership of the KKK I'd be grateful to be referred to it. Should I come across more documentation I will list it here.

My first source of Negro Klan membership is the book, "The Ku Klux Spirit", by J.A. Rogers, noted Negro historian of the 1920's. The Ku Klux Spirit was first published in 1923, by Messenger Publishing Co. It was republished in 1980, by Black Classic Press. On page 34 of his book we find the amazing passage: "A fact not generally known is that there were thousands of Negro Klansmen. These were used as spies on other Negroes and on Northern Whites."

Very interesting. In the 1920's, there were plenty of original Klansmen still living as well as many other people of both races who lived during the Reconstruction Era. J.A. Rogers would have been able to interview many. Why would a Black historian make such a thing up? And if he did make it up there would have been plenty of people who would have objected. His book would not have survived to this day. Yet, it did.

My second source is a book written by a Carpetbagger, Albion Winegar Tourgee (1838-1905). In 1880 he published his book, "A Fool's Errand", (New York: Fords, Howard and Hubert). It was republished in 1989 by Louisiana State University Press as, "The Invisible Empire". On page 79 of his book we find the passage: "There were no Colored men in the band (of Klansmen) that night. Their hands were not covered. I could see their boots and pants, and I could judge from their hands and feet. Most of them were genteel people, besides being white people. I could also have told by their language if there had been any Colored people among them. Their language was that of white men, and cultivated men."

OK, why claim that no Colored men were riding with the Klan that night unless the witness had seen Colored men with the Klan on another occasion? The men were in their robes since the witness had to look at their uncovered hands to see that no Colored men were among them. If he's not telling the truth, why would a Carpetbagger, of all people, ever make such a thing up?

My third source is, "Ku Klux Klan, It's Origins, Growth, and Disbandment", by J.C. Lester (one of the six original founders of the first Ku Klux Klan) and D.L. Wilson (another early Klansman). The book was first published in 1884. (I have an original copy). Reprints of this book are available from us for $7.00. The book was re-printed in 1905. In that edition, Walter L. Fleming, Ph.D., added an introduction. Again in 1905, there were still plenty of original Klansmen and others who had lived during the Reconstruction Era. In the introduction we find Fleming's statement: "Many of the genuine Unionists later joined in the movement (the KKK), and there were some few Negro members, I have been told."

Now here we are told that there were "some few Negro members". Above we were told that there "were thousands of Negro Klansmen." But that is relative. When one considers that the original KKK had over 400,000 members "some few Negro members" could have totaled several thousand!

My fourth source is an more modern book, "Nathan Bedford Forrest: A Biography", by Jack Hurst. On page 305 we find this interesting quote: "...(the Klan was) reorganized to oppose radical proponents (the Radical Republicans) of what it perceived to be Black domination, NOT to scourge Blacks themselves. Although it has been written that Ku Klux Klan ranks were open only to the more than 100,000 honorably discharged ex-Confederate veterans, the hierarchy in some areas and some instances seems to have accepted and even recruited Blacks, provided they went along with Conservative-Democratic political philosophy. In Memphis of late 1868, sixty-five Blacks organized a "Colored Democratic Club" under the watchful eye of Klansman-editor Gallaway - - who according to an account in the Appeal, "made a motion on behalf of the White men present, that they give employment and protection to Colored democrats."

So, the Klan not only accepted and recruited Blacks in some areas, but a Klan leader made a motion that White men give employment and protection to Colored democrats. That in itself speaks volumes. Yes, volumes of ignored facts of Klan, Negro, and American history.

That is all I have for documentation that there were Negro members of the original Ku Klux Klan. But, that in itself, is enough to prove their existence! The only thing to do now is to discover more documentation of what may very well be the least known chapter in Black American history. I said before that Americans do not know their own history. In time I will add this to my web page, but how many of you know that there were millions of White slaves (not bonded servants, but true slaves for life) in this country? That there were free Negroes who owned slaves? That there were free Negroes who fought gallantly for the Confederate States? That the Confederate Army did not discriminate against, or pay unequally its Negro soldiers? This and more, in time will be added. But for now, back to the Klan.

When the Klan was revived in 1915 it was originally just for Protestant White men. In time the Klan added the Women of the Ku Klux Klan, teenager and children's groups, groups for the foreign born and Colored men.

Concerning the Colored Klansmen of the 20th century my first source is, "Women of the Klan, Racism and Gender in the 1920's", by Kathleen M. Blee. (1991, University of California Press). On page 169, we find the passage, " Even more strangely, the Klan tried to organize an order of Black Protestants, a Klan "Colored division" in Indiana and other states. Despite promises that the new order would have "all the rights of membership" of the White Klan, much preparation went into ensuring that the values of white supremacy would be preserved as the Klan expanded its racial base. The group was to wear red robes, white capes, and blue masks and was prohibited from being seen in public with White Klansmen or handling any membership funds."

Well, if any of you ever find such a red, white, and blue robe in an antique shop or old trunk somewhere it would be as significant an historical find as discovering an original Klan robe. Likewise with any photos of the Colored Klansmen, newspapers articles, or anything else pertaining to them. Let me know if you do. (I think I'll make a couple reproductions of their robes for display.) It is presently unknown just how far the Colored Man's Klan went or how long they lasted. When the men's Klan had to disband in 1944, the separate Women of the Ku Klux Klan organization did not. They changed their name to the Women's Christian Patriotic Association and continued up to the 1960's. Could this order of Black Protestants have changed its name and still be with us to this day with its origins unknown to historians as well as its own present members?

Now to further add to this my next source of information is from the KKK, itself. In their book, "K.K.K. Friend or Foe: Which?", by attorney Blaine Mast and published in 1924 a chapter is dedicated to discussing the KKK and its relationship to the Black population. In this chapter we see the passage:

"The KKK claims that there is no good reason why the Colored people may not form a Ku Klux Klan of their own, and, as far as the writer knows, such an institution may exist in America. Indeed, we were credibly informed that some months ago a Klan gathering took place in an adjoining state, which was attended by some 20 colored men, for a general invitation had been extended. Those Negroes were so favorably impressed with what a distinguished speaker said, and with the general character and demeanor of the meeting, that they approached the speaker and others in authority and inquired if it were not possible for the Colored people to form a Klan of their own race. If they could get permission to organize they were anxious to do so and hoped for assistance from the officers of the KKK. So, in this particular instance, at least, some Colored men had no fear in associating with Klansmen."

The chapter then went on to outline the ground work for such a Black Klan. It is of interest that in the same book, another chapter is dedicated to discussing the possible formation of a Jewish branch of the Ku Klux Klan. A reprint of this book is available from us for $7.00.

We have recently made a new historical find concerning Negroes in the KKK that you will find surprising. It appears that in some cases Whites and Blacks belonged to the same local chapters of the Ku Klux Klan. Our source of information is from the book: Hard Times by Studs Terkel (1970, New York). The book is about the conditions in this country during the Great Depression. On page 239 we read:

"The Ku Klux was formed on behalf of people that wanted a decent living, both black and white. Half the coal camp was colored. It wasn't anti-colored. The black people had the same responsibilities as the white. Their lawn was just as green as the white man's. They got the same rate of pay. There was two colored who belonged to it. I remember those two coming around my father and asking questions about it. They joined. The pastor of our community church was a colored man. He was Ku Klux. It was the only protection the working man had. ....... One time a Negro slapped a white boy. They didn't give him any warning. They whipped him and ran him out of town. If a white man slapped a colored kid, they'd have dome the same thing. They didn't go in for beating up Negroes because they were Negroes. What they did was keep the community decent to live in. What they did object to was obscenity and drinking."

from: http://www.kkklan.com/negroklan.htm

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Dave Emory

Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:45:12 GMT

Is anyone here familiar with him. If so, what are your thoughts on him what he's talking about.

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Order Of The Solar Temple

Swaz — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 09:42:52 GMT

These are the folks led by an aged ex-Nazi who committed mass suicide at two places at once by burning themselves to death. One compound was in Canada and the other in Switzerland or something.

Anyone know anything more about this burnt group?

Swaz

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