I don't see how lucifer's ego or pride, could be any bigger than that of any "man". Men walk around acting like "Gods" all the time.

swaz perhaps you do not understand the purpose of the " don't say i or you must cut yourself ritual" i did not understand this exersize to be specificallly directed to the annilihation of the ego, but more towards the trining of the mind and the stranghining of the will. you could choose any word you wanted, if you are against the cutting, you could use a rubber band around the wrist.
i think to say the aa and the oto are moronic is well..kind of moronic. yes they are magick geeks.i am not currently involved with that group, but there are plenty of interesting teachings and exersizes in magick in theory and pratice.
could you really spend a week dissecting that ritual, or is it easier to just call someone a moron and write somthing off as stupid that you don't understand?
lucifer=bringer of light.
dissect that while you are at it.

I can't believe the ego on God, to persecute Lucifer like that. God should be ashamed of herself! This proved that handsome, intelligent beings can be marginalized.

t.h.e.o.

I find it very interesting that there is no word for "I" in Native American Language....

hehe....

Yes you are right. Not fearing evil cancels out its power.

One thing is my anscestral language (Cree) there is NO word for "I".

About Lucifer:

People become transfixed with Luicferian energy namely because of the dimmented corruption of organized religion; Catholic etc... (who had no idea that Jesus was an avatar, mystic, astrologer, medicine man and very well versed in laws of the emerald seals initiated into the great pyramids and sacred universal laws.)

Another reason people are brainwashed into the Luciferien order is that it is energetically percieved as a high order as you will see in this short example of one who is initiated into the powers of Lucifer below:

Black Witchcraft

The Foundations of the Luciferian Path
By Michael W. Ford

The nature of 'Skir-hand' Witchcraft in the ancient and modern world is of anti-nature, or rather the word “Antinomian” is a greek form meaning “against the law”. This word makes reference to rebellion from a structure or spiritual design of the masses, the majority and whatever the current ideological mainstream may be at that time. Witchcraft, no matter for what intent or form, has always stood outside any conventional acceptance within society – either by the religious hierarchy (even though it keeps their organizations called Church together and making money) or even governmental ones. To provide a distinct understanding of Luciferian Witchcraft from which I am an initiate of, I must write directly of experience and the vision which all initiates, past, present or secret, have brought to the current and how it manifests today. No longer should those of Luciferian nature be forced to denounce the darkness inherent within us all; witchcraft as with the human or daemonic spirit is both dual natured, light and shadow, bestial and angelic, ad infinitum.

The word ‘Black’ within the context of writing here is in reference to the hidden nature of the Sinister Craft, it is both the depths of initiation which runs deep in our souls, and the future possibility by the atavistic urges which may be harnessed into powerful tools of refining and strengthening our consciousness. The Order of Phosphorus is an initiatory guild of practitioners of sorcery from a Left Hand Path point of view. The word ‘Black’ is described by Idries Shah as being identified with the sound of FHM in the Arabic tongue, which is ‘black’ meaning ‘wise’ and equally with ‘understanding’. Shah writes further that black holds a connection with hidden wisdom, thus the phrase, “Dar tariki, tariqat” which means “In the Darkness, the Path”. The Order of Phosphorus is symbolic of fire illuminated from clay, of light emerging from darkness. The magicians and witches of this 'Skir-hand' Guild are equally focused on not only low sorcery, but utilizing the hidden nature of darkness to reveal Light within themselves. Here we find the foundation and essence of Baphomet, the Father of Wisdom. The Sabbatic God is both the union of the Beast and the Whore, Ahriman (Satan, Samael) and Az (Lilith, Babalon) which beget Cain (by the circle of Leviathan, the Serpent of the Depths). An initiatory image of Cain as Baphomet (by Soror Lilitu Azhdeha) may be found in “The Book of Cain” and represents the Black Lord of the Sabbat as a form of the Adversary.

A representation of this path may be found in my publications, “Luciferian Witchcraft: A Book of the Serpent” which contains the grimoires “Book of Cain”, “Goetic Sorcery”, “Yatuk Dinoih”, “Nox Umbra”, “The Paitisha”, “Azothoz”, “Vox Sabbatum” and much more. The infamous “Book of the Witch Moon” also has presented a foundation for the darker aspects of sorcery and vampirism, which Aleister Crowley alludes to in “De Arte Magica”. The reader who holds interest in the provenance of the Witches Sabbat in consideration of the Luciferic gnosis referred to in this article may have recourse material to seek in the aforementioned titles as well as works by Kenneth Grant who continued the Initiatic work of Crowley and Spare from the 1950’s onward.

....and blah blah blah....

.....in techniques of black magic... one weapon used against your enemy is the principle of encouraging faults and troubles rather than trying to counter whats good in them..

It is by virtue of "love" that TRUE power manifests... to be conscious of every living thing and especially your own life, body, mind-soul.... in much respect and dignity.

Peace

I agree Freemasonrywatch is worthless. When reading it, it almost seems as if it was written by someone who wants information to be distorted, while claiming to wear the badge of truthful exposition.

I have been studying and researching mystical ideas(dogma, practice, people, etc) for some time now, and I try to look at everything as unbiased as I can.

Thus far, from what I have gleaned, it seems that you have to choose between self and non-self.

Those who choose self..choose to gratify there ego...seeking power in whatever form it may take.

Those who choose non-self..deny the demands of ego and choose to benefit the greater good of humanity in whatever form that may take.

Finally let me say:

Judeo-Christian and Islamic religions, Lucifer is the name of "God's" highest archangel. The Morning Star, the Bringer of Light.
Not until Lucifer's ego takes control of him, is he cast from Heaven, and deemed accursed, Satan.
Please take this myth and try and understand it in a metaphorical sense.

I just read a book over the summer called: The History of Lucifer. I forget the author off-hand, but it is probably easy to find. Lucifer does mean light-bearer and the book propounds the Lucifer and Satan are two different entities. It also discusses Lucifer from Jesus' time throughout the witch hunts very thoroughly. In addition, a theory of the book is that Lucifer is/was a woman. Very interesting.

Thank you Freeman. This is my cup of tea. : )

Lucifer is yourself.

Whatever you are ashamed to admit yourself to being is a devil amongst you.

But devil's can be good for information but don't let them dictate the rules of the game.

I wish I had a cat named Lucifer. Or Anton Sandzor LaVey. But that takes too long to say.